Ian Rogers discusses his early career moves at Winamp, Beats, Apple Music, LVMH and having that "aha" moment when he decided to join Ledger as chief experience officer. He shares his thoughts on digital assets, identity, culture and designing hardware and software systems that protect the valuable items in our lives. Sam and Avery also explore Ian’s long-view approach on building out transformational technology products, and why he’s not worried about minor bull and bear moments in crypto. Listen as Ian talks about the importance of cultural relevance and building brands – Ledger has had recent media success working with Drake and Snoop Dogg.