This episode is sponsored by, Arculus and FTX US.

Laura Shin is the host of “Unchained,” one of the best known and longest running crypto podcasts. She is also the author of the new book “The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze.” In today’s episode, she and NLW discuss the early days of Ethereum, including her theory on who was behind The DAO hack that ended up causing Ethereum to fork.

Find our guest on Twitter: @laurashin

“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell, research by Scott Hill and additional production support by Eleanor Pahl. Adam B. Levine is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. The music you heard today behind our sponsor is “I Don't Know How To Explain It” by Aaron Sprinkle. Image credit: FlashMovie/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at